.
Feedback

Comment: Upset Neighbor of Recycling Center Draws Debate

A peppery and thought-provoking range of perspectives, including our Comment of the Week, was sparked by a guest column from a resident unhappy with being a neighbor of the El Cerrito Recycling Center.

El Cerrito seems to have few, if any, sacred cows, though the city's successful Recycling Center seems to enjoy an unusually high degree of civic pride. So it's not surprising that a guest column by an upset neighbor of the facility, "," generated a reader debate and a wide variety of viewpoints, several of which struck us as candidates for our "Comment of the Week."

We chose one by Kari Jones, not because we necessarily agree or regard it as the "best," but because we think it reflects several of the issues that arose in what appears to be a clash between two things we all place a high value on: a successful municipal recycling center and a tranquil home free from noxious fumes and rude strangers.

Kari Jones' comment, posted Jan. 25:

I find it disheartening that Jay's comments are dubbed "whining" and some folks have suggested he just move out of our community. Why? So someone else can move in and be subjected to to the same indignities? Every real nuisance he outlines is preventable with a modicum of courtesy and attention. Idling drivers need to follow the established laws and after-hours scroungers, who aren't doing ANYONE any favors, should be confronted by law enforcement. I feel for you Jay. I used to live next to People's Park in Berkeley and constantly heard how I should 'just move' because I 'should have known what I was getting into. Ultimately, of course, someone other poor sap moved in after I left and now has to endure the endless human suffering that those insulated from the everyday reality of the place are ultimately unwilling to tackle. While solving the problem of chronic homelessness and the untreated mental illness that underlies it may be a bit too much to ask, dismissing Jay's rather modest suggestions of how to to fix the disruptions around his house seems to be setting the bar for common human decency entirely too low. I'm with you Jay and I'm sorry our collective good (recycling-yay!) has lowered your quality of life so much.

  • Editor's note: The "Comment of the Week" doesn't necessarily reflect the view of El Cerrito Patch. It's chosen according to what we believe will be of general reader interest. For other examples from our "Comment of the Week" series, please click here.
Kathy A. January 29, 2012 at 11:03 pm
I did not speak up when the article appeared, but there definitely has been an increase in noise at night. I've also lived near the recycling center for about 15 years (in EC for over 20 years), and am a big supporter of the recycling center.
I really do not mind the noise during the day, but at least twice last week I was woken at 4:30 a.m. by trucks backing up. Don't know why this is happening, but I assume it is temporary and related to the construction. I don't know why the Goodwill trucks should idle for so long, or block a driveway. This has to be related to moving the Goodwill truck down Schmidt to make way for construction. (Not the idling part; that is just rude and wasteful. It would not happen immediately outside someone's house if the truck had not been moved down the road.) Goodwill asks people to not drop off donations during off hours. EVERYBODY SHOULD PAY ATTENTION! They are open long hours and on weekends; there is no need to drop things Sunday night. If you absolutely have to dump some things during off hours, there are some donation places elsewhere that provide a drop-box. Someone should check this out, but I think one place is EC Plaza, behind the Lucky store. I know I've seen other drop-boxes, with chutes so the items do not end up strewn on the street. Help me out!
Tatter Salad June 14, 2012 at 09:04 pm
I cannot comment on the off-hour noise, but I do wish to comment on the
changes that have taken place. The aesthetic appeal is markedly improved, particularly if you are a bird flying over the area; perhaps the rear access to the bins is functionally improved from City's point-of-view - it used require some possible fender-benders between forklifts and customers. It still fails in NOT having an oil recycling pit as it used to. It also squeezes in fewer cars ,- tightly spaced, so that dumping into multiple bins becomes even more problematic. Perhaps the smaller size is only a issue during Saturdays... dunno. But I give the 'beautiful' improvements a 'D' from a users' point of view.

Newsletter & Alerts

Get the best stories each day and important breaking news

Subscribe

Not from El Cerrito Patch? Find your Local Patch »

Note Article
Just a short thought to get the word out quickly about anything in your neighborhood.
Share something with your neighbors. Write a new post... What's up? Make an announcement, speak your mind, or sell something
G.C. June 15, 2013 at 08:43 am
Of course. Read the following about Assemblyman John Perez and his disdain for transparency.Read More http://ronkayela.com/2011/09/speaker-john-perez-to-the-pres.html
Kathy A. June 19, 2013 at 09:32 am
http://www.mercurynews.com/opinion/ci_23485981/mercury-news-editorial-public-records-act-must-be
Ira Sharenow June 12, 2013 at 07:44 pm
Some in Richmond do not agree with your viewpoint. http://www.tombutt.com/forum/2013/1305010.htmRead More “I have never seen a public servant work harder for anything than WCCUSD School Board member Charles Ramsey worked to complete the District’s ambitious program to rebuild or upgrade every single school in the system.” I wonder how this court decision will impact WCCUSD. http://www.contracostatimes.com/breaking-news/ci_23447723/state-high-court-denies-review-alamedas-measure-h State high court denies review in Alameda's Measure H suit The ruling in the Alameda case is expected to have far reaching consequences for school districts throughout the state as similar lawsuits over parcel tax structures have been filed in Yolo, Contra Costa and Los Angeles counties.
G.C. June 13, 2013 at 07:15 am
The WCCUSD needs to hear what thoughts citizens have on this matter. Currently, the WCCUSD boardRead More meetings have placed the Public Comment period late in the meeting, making it difficult for folks to comment. I have started a petition for modifying the agenda. http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/let-us-speak-wccusd/ In Hercules, we are still awaiting a correction to the taxation process, that apparently we are due a higher percentage as explained by Councilman Romero here http://pinole-hercules.patch.com/groups/opinion/p/2012-hercules-dan-romero Wouldn't it be ironic if Mr. Ramsey get's his wish before the citizens of Hercules get theirs?
Michael O'Connor June 14, 2013 at 08:34 am
Milton, your calm and reserved opinions certainly would serve you well in a leadership role.
Frank - Fabulous Fun Facilitator June 8, 2013 at 12:07 pm
If you are looking for a cool indoor event visit Playland Not at the Beach, Best Indoor PlayplaceRead More and Best Party Venue in El Cerrito, Open Saturdays & Sundays 10 am - 5 pm with free magic shows at 1:00 & 3:00 pm. This weekend Fabulous Frank is performing on Saturday and Mike Della Penna is performing on Sunday. www.pnatb.org
Mechanics from Street Level Cycles tune up bikes at the Albany Arts & Green Festival. Photo courtesy Matt McHugh
AS&R - Albany Strollers & Rollers June 7, 2013 at 11:30 am
Someone asked me to post when they can donate: Open Community Hours are Friday, Saturday, SundayRead More 12-6pm so anytime those days are definitely fine. They're there (84 Bolivar Drive - Aquatic Park) most of the day Wednesdays and Thursdays for Youth Classes and the doors are locked. I just spoke to Amber Rich and she asked you to call them at 510 644 2577 and let them know what time is good for you and they will be sure to be there. Thanks!